window maker looks awesome, but I have my doubts regarding its functionality. Could any window maker user share their experience with me?
I use Window Maker regularly. It's very featureful and fairly easy to use. It has its quirks because a lot of applications don't play nicely with the dock icon system, but it's customizable and user friendly overall. Everything is configured via GUI. Also, you'll need some dockapps for a few things like wmsystemtray and wmclock, both should be available via package manager. Start them, pin them to the dock wherever you like, and set them to launch on startup. https://www.dockapps.net/ has a list of more you can try out. I gave up having the application menu be auto-populated, I ended up just making my own entries for everything since you can't edit the menu if it's being autofilled. Allegedly, there used to be a way to get the autogenerated menu to work alongside a customized one, but that might have been broken for 20 years now as far as I can tell. You might also want to make sure the key bindings don't conflict with your other programs, I can't remember which one was causing problems for me by default. Again, everything is GUI based (double click the Window Maker logo for settings) so it's nice and easy. oh yeah, it doesn't play nice with click trackpads too, you need to be able to right-click drag for some things, a proper mouse is mandatory It's a bit quirky, but it's also very easy to get used to. It makes an active effort to be easy to use, things are generally discoverable by clicking around and checking the tooltips (enable balloon help when you're starting out). I really like Window Maker.
continuing from the above, I've been using it actively for... I dunno, more than 10 years, maybe more like 15 or so it hasn't always been my main WM, a bunch of my systems just used XFCE, and way back when GNOME wasn't completely divorced from good taste or design, I used GNOME 2 but if I'm on a resource constrained system, Window Maker comes out since it's really light, snappy, and is still easy to use -- I'd spent a bit of time going nuts with FVWM for a while and tweaking it at one point, but it's just a pain to configure, while Window Maker is comically easy and user friendly
idk what this is. i been using unix since 2021. and run dwm, before it was just manjaro xfce
>>230 >idk what this is it's a window manager that tries to replicate the look and feel of NeXTStep (the OS that became Mac OS X)
What would be the optimal language to use if I'd want to automate the process of adding a new post to my html blog?
curl. make a post and just open browser debugger and copy curl request. from there you would just change the post content. for images.. well idk. but yeah the shell
and set up cron for how often you want it to post. this is /unix/ you should know how to do this..
>What would be the optimal language to use if I'd want to automate the process of adding a new post to my html blog? so like, what are you actually doing? are you manually writing whole HTML pages and want them to be auto-uploaded to the site when the folder changes? that'd be a fairly simple shell script, you'd likely use inotifywait (on Linux, don't ask me anything about *BSD) to wait for changes and then sftp them to the server are you looking to use a static site generator where you write HTML snippets for entries and everything gets cobbled together into a set of pages with headers/footers/navigation/theming? you could roll your own and my lazy ass would also make that a shell script that basically just uses something like "for f in ./entries/*.part; do cat header.part $f footer.part > "$f".html", maybe with something thrown in the middle to handle page navigation programmatically where header/footer.part are just like, the HTML you put before/after your conten and if you don't feel like that, there are a buuunch of static site generators, pick one is this not a static site and you want to generate pages serverside? php, period, it is literally made for the job really though, if you just want language recs here, I will genuinely just say bash and python 100% of the time python annoys me but it's easy and generally just works part of me wants to learn tcl becuase it's like shell scripting but more cross platform, has a built-in GUI library, and is allegedly more self-consistent vs just using the infinitely expanding amount of bashisms with bonkers syntax while also expecting everyone to have a GNU userland lol (there are an awful lot of shell scripts I've written that will absolutely not work on a system that isn't literally "GNU/Linux" lol, although since my Windows systems all run WSL it doesn't matter and I can use them there)
i am trying to buy a new router other then just using my openbsd server as a router. something brain dead easy but also super secure. i already bought a router i can flash openwrt on but i wanted pfsense but wireless is poor. openbsd is alright but i fail each time setting up a vpn and understanding pf other then simple things. i already got a openwrt compatsvle router coming but i wanna know if there is a better solution
>>204 forgot link https://protectli.com/product/fw4b/
i ended up getting this. it is core booted and supposed to use like no power. x86 cpu. gonna slap openbsd with disk encryption on it for a router you cant beat.
my nas also came a few days ago. it will also be running openbsd and full disk encryption. i know i have had disk trouble in the past using encryption and losing data. but i think i finaly b0rked enough systems to know how to deal with this daemon! openbsd 4eva!!
shit fucking NAS returninf it. cant use any m.2 or hdd or ram. rip my WD eterpriss drives with off the shelf m.2. they wont work.
tried to make a thread on /main/ but it said "you must have a boardID" or something... site bug?
do ctrl shift r? it works for me... that is weird
sorry i am lazy with my bad software...
Anyone know of any cool tech youtube channels? Like, working with things that don't get talked about much. I really like clabretro. Tons of really cool hardware, all kind of Sun enterprise gear, ISP gear, servers, loads of stuff I'd love to try working with but I neither have the cash nor room (you need an entirely separate room for these becuase they're all hyper loud and they put out gobs of heat). Watching this reminds me of how I wish I had money back in 2005/6/7 to grab a bunch of cheap Sun and SGI gear from the dotcom crash instead of still being a schoolboy. (;´ω`) https://www.youtube.com/@clabretro I also like Usagi Electric, who works with a lot of very old computers. Proper old, he has a working Centurion minicomputer system, properly kitted out with disks and terminals, he has an ancient Bendix computer from the 50s that he's trying to get set up, he's building his own simple all vacuum tube computer. Just really coool stuff. https://www.youtube.com/@UsagiElectric Lastly, I like NCommander. Extremely deep technical dives into software, trying to get ancient source code building, ancient Unix stuff, OS/2 stuff, old NetWare. A lot of his stuff is streams sadly, but he does compile things into proper videos. https://www.youtube.com/@NCommander
still can't get over how neat clabretro's stuff is just really interesting enterprise hardware like this system from the mid 00s that lets you slice up the machine with some hardware VM setup https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J1NxcgasTIU I'd love even a little bit of kit to mess with, but the sheer loudness of enterprise gear that you stick in an air-conditioned and soundproofed room is certainly a damper
https://www.youtube.com/@UniversalTech277
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this jew is pretty good and showing stuff i never seen https://www.youtube.com/@nirlichtman
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>Did Cap-Tan draw these? It looks like their style yup!
why no full res?
>>52 i did! >>58 a 300x300 was used originally, these are just sketches so i could figure out exactly what was asked of me. there is no higher res than this
so qute! ＼（＾-＾）／ peary nice
not sure if this is the right place for this but im assuming it fits becuz tech ^_^ i used 2 see a lot of people 'homebrew' 3ds and stuff and recently saw someone do it with a wii . sounds fun 2 be able to get all thr games + visual customization but it it worth it ? i have two wiis , not sure if one works but if it does i would luv to maybe hak it . wouldn't want to use our 'main' wii though since it has been around for a really long time and i don't wanna mess it up lol i know it is kind of the same 'moral' fiasco as emulating games, if it is right to pirate games i guess. but its not like they even produce wii or wii stuff anymore o_o if u have done it / seen people do it what are your opinions on homebrewing stuff ? how hard is it ? im sure newer things r harder 2 work with than older devices , modern security and stuff
also i booted it up yesterday (just plugged it up with the main cables because i don't actually know what im doing) and it works just fine ^_^ connected it to the web , and there was already the homebrew channel on it so i struggled with it for no reason without realizing that . i need a flash drive to give it the ISOs for games, but i think it works !!! will update .... hopefully i can pick one up while im out and about and my friends are coming over so we can find some games
>>181 sending teh internet police to get ya for pirated gaems!!!1 (you will be fine pirate them all!!!)
>>182 LOL when i was a kid learning about emulators this scared the shit out of me . i think most if not all wii games are considered abandonware now though . . .
it got me too... one thing i did learn tho, is some company will release software that cracked or noticed a cracked product id when you run the software with internet and send scary letters in the mail. i have heard you can just ignore the letters and you will be fine? but just always run with out internet. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2SDMie8dbsg
this guy looks like a downie(USER WAS WARNED FOR THIS POST rule 8)
tbh idc as long as it not just all slang.. if it was something i can tell was on purpose. or you speak r8 like you breath. then i would thrown out ban. bc i also spit out r8 bc i was born after year 2000 i understand
I didn't know downie was rule 8 breaking
It's not rule 8 at all, WTF (;ﾟ∇ﾟ) It's just slang for "person with down's syndrome", and has been around since before most users here were born
i have seen this discursion before with pop-tan on heyuri. he was using the word gooning as it has been slang way before most of us been alive. but just the way its used now as a buzz word maed it not relly allowed.
Has anyone here tried doing Linux from Scratch? How did it go for you if you did? https://www.linuxfromscratch.org/ I kind of want to give it a go to learn all about the nitty-gritty of what's under the hood in a Linux system. Seems like a fun project to follow, although it also seems like it'll be a ton of waiting for stuff to compile. (;´Д`)
i have never but i heard from some oldies that was required to get there job
There's not a lot of videos about it. I remember a young guy on YT who looked as you would have expected showing off his totally pimped out LFS install. When I mean pimped out, it was pimped out. More people should do showcases like that. If you don't want to do full LFS, there are other distros that are above Gentoo in difficulty like Nutyx.
New board, woah! What machines do you run, what do you run on 'em, that sort of thing. More importantly than the specs, what do they do? What do you do on them? Pretty normal gaming desktop for my main computer, Ryzen 5 3600X+RTX2060. It is running Windows 10 still because I am incredibly lazy and there are a handful of things I do that will definitely not be pleasant under Wine. I suspect that I will probably actually escape to Linux as my daily driver again for the first time in over 10 years if I am forced to move to Windows 11, although it will be painful. I use WSL pretty constantly to make up for Windows' shortcomings-- it is impressive just how many Windows-oriented shell scripts I have because batch scripting is insane and has no reason to be so. It does normal gaming and web browsing tasks, and it SSH's into my side machine to make things more seamless. I often do a bunch of video conversions with ffmpeg so media can play nicely on my side machine. I have a bunch of assorted USB HDDs and SSDs plugged in for storage. I actually think at least one of them is SATA and I probably should take it out of the enclosure and plug it in directly over SATA.... My side machine is a Pi 4, running Pi OS 12. Was unpleasant to upgrade (I in-place desktop Debian just fine, but the Pi OS team clearly is doing something different that makes it flaky in a way I do not feel like fixing) and I have a lot of stuff to do that I will probably never get around to doing, but that's life. It plays music and assorted videos, and I use it as a very bootleg NAS. (^_^;) Any assorted Linux development tasks that aren't terminal only, I do on it. There are two USB disks plugged in for storage, one for the OS since running off of SD is awful, and one for videos and music. I am deeply tempted to buy a Pi 5, but considering the use case, I want to wait for a Pi 500. The keyboard and all the stuff I have plugged into it is taking up valuable desk real estate. I really should probably learn some web stuff, and use the Pi 4 to test it locally. Laziness...
>>10 GET!!!!!
I am the owner of a Dragonbox Pyra which is an obscure Linux handheld. I only browse the web on it with Vivaldi. If you want the Pi 5 but in a keyboard case with an actual quality keyboard, get the Commodore 64x case. You can put a Pi in it.
>>126 >I am the owner of a Dragonbox Pyra which is an obscure Linux handheld. POST PICS
HE NEVAR DELIVER!
Has anyone here ever tried Plan 9? It was designed by Bell Labs in the late 80s as a research successor to Unix. GUI-driven, heavily networked, everything is a file but even more than Unix went at the time (IIRC, /proc on Linux was extremely inspired by Plan 9). Running programs on different machines was a major feature, you'd have disk servers to store things and CPU servers to run tasks, and your local machine would render the interface and it'd all be seamless, even to the point where if you had programs for a different architecture, if you were connected to a CPU server that had that architecture, the program would run. I really wanted to try all the crazy networking stuff out, but I didn't have more computers to do it back when I tried running the OS for an extended period of time. Maybe I could get something going now, future project. It's not something you can really run as a daily driver (the two things that affected me the most were no video playback and no proper browser, which were way more of an issue when I only had one computer), although the modern 9front distribution has made strides in keeping it working on modern hardware and adding useful software. I like the window manager, Rio quite a bit. It's obnoxiously simple to the point of being extremely opaque to get started with. It's not complicated at all, but like everything else in the system, you need to read the manual to get to grips with it. It demands a 3-button mouse, which makes it a bit awkward at times and nearly impossible to use on most laptops without an external mouse... but it's very logical and clean. Felt like riding a bike firing it up again and after a little wobbliness (in particular, resizing a window is weird, you select the resize command, select the window, and then draw the new size of the window) Writing code for it is... different. I spent a little bit of time learning the system APIs ages ago, but the dev team really was quite dead set on not caring one whit about making it Unix-like (almost to the point of absurdity sometimes, there are several cases where Plan 9 uses the name of a Unix thing in an entirely different context despite it coming out of Bell Labs and worked on by major original Unix people), even if the system is absolutely a cousin to olschool Unix, so I was a little lost, and there isn't as much documentation as I am used to. There is a compiler and system to assist in porting Unix stuff to Plan 9, and I used that quite a bit, but it absolutely felt like cheating. I really like how clean the the shell syntax is, rc is just a really nice shell. It's an absolute breath of fresh air vs Bourne and derivatives. You get to do a LOT just with shell scripting because everything truly is a file, so by just modifying various files on the system, you can do arbitrary system tasks. Move windows, read and change the text in a different window, establish network connections and send data, the system exposes a ton of stuff through the filesystem and it's super cool. I think I remember using something that exposed IRC as part of the filesystem a while ago, but that was back when I had any IRC channels to go to. （;´д｀） The system also features Acme, a really powerful text editor system that wants to be a shell in its own right. It's also kind of opaque, based around a few very simple principles taken very, very far. Every single character in it is editable, down to the menubars. I had a VM with 9front installed on one of my harddrives and I was hoping I'd have set up any of the stuff from my main install a few years ago, but it's pretty bare. Pic related, I'd downloaded shareware Doom and configured it last time I booted the VM, which was apparently in 2022.
>>25 i have not used it and some one was trying to get me to use it one time, i heard things where to much like a file, like mouse movement and positioning? its like dragonfly bsd but on crack right?
computing like that is always been my dream, i know so many ppl say on tech youtube that you just cant split up things like that and more cores dose not = better performance. that having a cluster super computer cant make graphics and gaming better. it just seems dumb, if we can have 1gbs network speeds and can already program multiple cores then clustering should be a possibility, maybe i am talking out my ass and don't know low level all that well
>>27 So, as a product of the late-80s/early-90s, Plan 9's design is more thin-client style. You'd have some beefy servers or whatever in the back, and cheap workstations would be scattered around to connect and run tasks. Due to the fact that the system tries to ensure that everything you have access to is in the filesystem across machines, this means you can connect to whatever CPU server you want on the network and your whole environment just works. You could reasonably do a lot of over-the-network processing between multiple machines, but it wouldn't be quite as seamless as just adding more machines to the pool and they get handled in an completely transparent SMP sort of fashion. That would be super cool, but I really don't know how feasible such a system is across the network, even between machines right next to each other, let alone across an office or across the Internet. Each CPU server runs its own processes and doesn't share memory space. They can (and generally do) share a filesystem namespace, and it would be more than reasonable for each to send data via that so you could handle IPC/workload distribution. Since EVERYTHING is a file, regardless of whether it hits the disk (and often, it doesn't -- network connections are made by manipulating the filesystem), this is extremely easy. To do distributed computing on Plan 9, you'd have a program on your terminal that checks for other CPU servers mapped on the network and asks them to start their copy of the program, then it transfers work to those copies, which would report back. Plan 9's design makes this significantly easier to write vs other platforms, but you'd still need to write it yourself as far as I'd know. Also sadly, I was wrong about seamless program execution between architectures -- apparently, Plan 9 actually makes it so that binaries in their respective architecture's bin folder are mapped into /bin based on which machine is running them. Still cool, and it works in a really seamless fashion since the CPU server running the program gets to see the filesystem from your machine's perspective (for the most part), but not as cool as automatically running it on another machine if this one couldn't.
You can get by with 9front if most of what you do on a daily basis is textual manipulation. The only thing I can think of that's cooler than Plan 9 is Lisp machines, but you can't use those in the modern day.
what are some amazing unix books you own? i believe my collection here is pretty strong. i really onky ever read the openbsd books, c books, some 4.4 bsd and ed mastery. do you guys have any recommendations of powerful unix books i should get? its really hard to have time to read, i just was never good at english.
>I'm genuinely a bit surprised that ed isn't provided by default on some systems now well if the system dose not have it then its not posix. as it is a posix standerd witch i think u meant https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_POSIX_commands
>>106 posix compatibility isn't as relevant as it used to be, sadly "runs fine on ubuntu, fedora, and debian" (and maybe not even fedora lol) is the name of the game when it comes to compatibility these days... (=_=)
>>103 hmmm.... I wonder if ex is provided on most systems in a default install still (thanks to Vim) so you could feed commands into ex -s in scripts and expect it to work
https://x.com/9600/status/1146852915396665344 I have the Documents half of this set just because it's kind of collectible. I really would like to be friends with someone who is super into Plan 9 and pass it on to them.
other then having sakura at my house 24/7 and ffmpeg scripts. what is good software that is unix like for home video cams. preferable with object detection and viewable on phone. i tried home assistant with motion eyes and it keep eating the dirt and dying. i have a few ip cams that support standard nvr stuff.
HOW 2 BECOME HAX0R? TY. cracking isn't as kewl as they say?
you wanna be a real hacker? (｀・ω・´) sudo apt install cmatrix pipes-sh tmux tmux new session \; send-keys pipes enter \; split-window -h \; send-keys "cmatrix -b -a -u 3" enter and everyone will marvel at your haxx0r setup ヽ(´∇`)ノ was gonna add more things in a 2x2 grid but I'm too lazy to think of it so I decided to just do one split doing a | split and a single - split to the right is super easy at least to become even more haxx0r, I guess an exercise for the reader would be to modify the above to make 4 evenly spaced panels and put something cool in them (also, send-keys literally sends those keys into the tmux pane's shell but some sequences like escape or enter will be interpreted as single buttons and not a sequence of presses) advanced hax0r status: remote into someone else's machine and do this (・∀・)
>>121 zOMG I GOT ARRESTED
did you have a skateboard and cool sun glasses?
>>122 if you can post here from jail, you can hack from jail never stop haxxing (｀・ω・´)
dose anyone know about soldering and electronics? i am buying this stuff along with firmware extraction stuff. i want to get into hardware hacking and things i know how to solder but i cant read a diagram. i think i understand how IC's work? is there any thing you guys know or thought about with electronics
I really need to sit down and practice soldering. All of my builds are horrific and use tons and tons of copper tape everywhere and crimped connections. There are multiple places where I've superglued wires onto pins. I am a monster... m(_ _)m I also do need a vent sucker thing so I can not breathe flux fumes nonstop when I do attempt soldering. diagrams shouldn't be too bad? you mostly just need to find a chart of common component symbols diagrams with ICs are generally pretty easy to follow since it's just a rectangle with named pins going to other parts, I usually need to look up other things some of the symbols in this picture you won't ever really see, there are a few you'll see constantly
what about resistors and other things? i don't understand color codes when looking for a specific resisters. i assume most things would be at 5/3.3 volts for the entirety of a board?
>>115 >what about resistors and other things? i don't understand color codes when looking for a specific resisters. I don't get color codes either, I look it up every time. https://www.digikey.com/en/resources/conversion-calculators/conversion-calculator-resistor-color-code >i assume most things would be at 5/3.3 volts for the entirety of a board? yeah if you're interfacing to a device that isn't the same voltage (I use Pi Picos a bunch, which are 3.3v, but a lot of stuff I'd want to interface with is 5v), you'll need level shifters something like this: https://www.sparkfun.com/products/12009
alot of my things came in the mail.. this universal chip programer thingy came with a good luck charm ヽ(ﾟρﾟ)ノ
